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Zynewave
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| Quote: | | Does the full special edition of Podium feature in that one or the next edition, maybe due out around the end of Nov / early DEC ? |
The next one coming out early December (issue 1|2007). |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Zynewave wrote: | | Quote: | | Does the full special edition of Podium feature in that one or the next edition, maybe due out around the end of Nov / early DEC ? |
The next one coming out early December (issue 1|2007). |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Zynewave wrote: | | Quote: | | Does the full special edition of Podium feature in that one or the next edition, maybe due out around the end of Nov / early DEC ? |
The next one coming out early December (issue 1|2007). |
Are you prepared for the inevitable flood of new-user questions in the forum Frits? 
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Zynewave
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| kingtubby wrote: | | Are you prepared for the inevitable flood of new-user questions in the forum Frits? |
I'm certainly curious to see how big the response will be. Maybe I'll have to set up a "Deutsch" support forum
The outcome of this whole experience/experiment will determine whether I should try something similar with other magazines. |
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I think, there are many people reading Beat that are mostly using Loops. So there will be many requests for Timestretch, I think.
For other people who are tired of using Cubase or Sonar, Podium will be a perfect alternative. I hope Frits will sell a LOT of new licences!! 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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The outcome of this whole experience/experiment will determine whether I should try something similar with other magazines. |
A wait and see approach makes absolute sense however...
I think if another opportunity should arise with another magazine, to give a free copy away but offer an upgrade path to newer Podium versions, I would take it up anyway and quickly.
Unless you are sitting on a huge marketing budget Frits or are aware of another potentially lucrative marketing opportunity, then whether 1 or 1000 new Podium users arrive as a result of the Beat magazine deal (Podianer did really well), I would still take any additional magazine offer so that Podium can reach more people.
I think even thinking of not trying something similar depending on the results with Beat is a bit strange to me. What other idea or avenues do you have in mind that can reach that many of your target market for free?
All products in a given market are available to a potential customer but marketing a product places an available product in front of a potential customer. The free version of Podium in Beat does the latter.
Again unless you have a very large marketing budget, free copies of Podium given away (with an upgrade path) on magazines in future that are interested in Podium, is surely not a possibility but an extremely timely opportunity to be snapped up immediately....whatever the success rate of this deal with Beat.
Compared to other products there are really so few users of Podium, but it could be so different.
I think the developer of the Ps1 synth said something which astounded me. He said something along the lines of having to drop the price because so few people had heard of his product. This was reviewed in at least 2 magazines and it's creator is very active on KVR. I was baffled by his comment.
Of course it was because of a lack of *enough* marketing. He just did not have the Cakewalk or Steinberg sized budgets for marketing but I was astounded that many had not heard of his synth.
Competition is stiff, please whatever the result of Beat, don't turn down similar opportunities in future especially when there is really no better way to reach your ideal target market for nothing. Of course the decision is yours but ?!?!?!?
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I think, there are many people reading Beat that are mostly using Loops. So there will be many requests for Timestretch, I think.
For other people who are tired of using Cubase or Sonar, Podium will be a perfect alternative. I hope Frits will sell a LOT of new licences!! Laughing |
Great initiative Podianer it does look very promising. Podium really should have had a much higher number of users by now. Your efforts hopefully will go some way to address the balance. Well done.
No doubt Frits and all the rest of us are eagerly anticipating the results |
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Zynewave
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I think even thinking of not trying something similar depending on the results with Beat is a bit strange to me. What other idea or avenues do you have in mind that can reach that many of your target market for free? |
Of course I intend to contact other magazines to try similar arrangements, but the Beat cooperation will give me a sense of what to expect from such a promotion. Depending on the sales generated, perhaps creating a feature-limited version is better than giving away a full version. Or setting up upgrade rebates for the magazine readers, etc. |
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| Zynewave wrote: |
Of course I intend to contact other magazines to try similar arrangements, but the Beat cooperation will give me a sense of what to expect from such a promotion. Depending on the sales generated, perhaps creating a feature-limited version is better than giving away a full version. Or setting up upgrade rebates for the magazine readers, etc. |
I thought so. Something just did not add up somewhere. Thanks for clarifying that.
I think both of your suggestions for similar future magazine deals would work. Perhaps choosing the one that is easiest for you to manage would be the best choice. |
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Today the new issue of BEAT arrived.. I quickly shot 2 photos. Sorry for the bad quality.. I subscribed to BEAT so that's why I got it earlier. I think on 6th of Dec. the issue will be delivered for those non-subscribers...
Max
http://www.sound-m.com/Podium1.jpg
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http://www.sound-m.com/Podium2.jpg
The next two issues will have two more workshops. Let's hope this website gets some serious traffic!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Podianer wrote: | I think on 6th of Dec. the issue will be delivered for those non-subscribers...
Max |
It looks like it is available from tomorrow Dec. 1st. Thanks for the screen shots  and well done!
Podium beat: KOMPLETTER SEQUENZER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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The issue of 2/2007 is out. Podium is updated to 1.74
Very nice. Does this mean, it includes the fade properties, introduced in 1.73? That would be a very nice addition for german users
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| Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Podianer wrote: | The issue of 2/2007 is out. Podium is updated to 1.74
Very nice. Does this mean, it includes the fade properties, introduced in 1.73? That would be a very nice addition for german users |
Judging by 1.73's feature list it does look Beat readers will get 'fades' Of course only Frits can confirm or deny that for sure. But it does look that way. |
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It's a full 1.74 version without zReverb. It has the basic fade functionality but not the latest improvements (scalable waveform, crossfade etc.).
I assume the second workshop is in the mag. Could you give some details about what the topic is this time? The Beat editors have done this entirely on their own, so I have no idea what they are up to. |
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| Zynewave wrote: | It's a full 1.74 version without zReverb. It has the basic fade functionality but not the latest improvements (scalable waveform, crossfade etc.).
I assume the second workshop is in the mag. Could you give some details about what the topic is this time? The Beat editors have done this entirely on their own, so I have no idea what they are up to. |
Of course: it is a 2 page workshop that covers 15 steps called "Audio-Recording & - Automation" (cool, it is the same in German as it is in English here )
1. add new track
2. track properties
3. assigning inputs
4. start recording
5. sound editor (and midi editor)
6. tools in sound editor (and midi editor)
7. edit menu in sound editor
8. Level and Pan
9. some words about the object oriented structure of Podium
10. level automation
11. plugin parameter automation
12. properties of parameters
13. device properties
14. VST parameter automation
15. automation in the mixer (faders)
The workshop is well done imo. It is better than most workshops in the BEAT. Most of them aren't very useful when you own the product already. They are rather superficial.
I hope putting Podium in the Mag generates some sales for you, Frits! I realized that there are some more forum registrations in the last weeks. Perhaps as people play with the version in BEAT, they want "more" and buy the "full" license.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Of course: it is a 2 page workshop that covers 15 steps called "Audio-Recording & - Automation" (cool, it is the same in German as it is in English here )
1. add new track
2. track properties
3. assigning inputs
4. start recording
5. sound editor (and midi editor)
6. tools in sound editor (and midi editor)
7. edit menu in sound editor
8. Level and Pan
9. some words about the object oriented structure of Podium
10. level automation
11. plugin parameter automation
12. properties of parameters
13. device properties
14. VST parameter automation
15. automation in the mixer (faders) |
Gulp!  Pretty comprehensive. A great way to help Beat readers get up to speed with Podium, very nice.
| Quote: | | Perhaps as people play with the version in BEAT, they want "more" and buy the "full" license. |
I think the changes from 1.74 to 1.76 are very significant. As more features are added (with the usual rock sold reliability) I think registrations from more Beat readers are very likely. |
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