Reply To: Relative snap?

@Ortac wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

• Dragging phantom copies in the arrangement editor is now done with the Ctrl key instead of the Alt key. The phantom copy can subsequently be converted to a unique copy with the edit menu or the Ctrl+U shortcut.

What’s the point in this? It makes things more difficult as far as I can see.

@Slomo wrote:

I agree with Ortac. I have an established workflow using Ctrl and Alt all the time. It’s easier to learn new behaviour than to change old 😉

The reason for these changes can be gathered from various posts in this topic, but to summarize:

Changes to the key shortcuts was necessary to make room for a new key shortcut for temporarily overriding snapping while dragging events. This is a shortcut that is available in most other host programs, and I’ve come to appreciate it during the development of 2.30.

There are now three drag modes that are shared among all arrangement, piano roll, drum map and curve editors: Copy, override snap and lock x/y position. For consistency, I insist that the key shortcuts used to activate these drag modes are the same across all editors. It would be stupid to have for example snap override on the Alt key in the piano-roll, and on the Shift key in the arrangement editor.

The arrangement editor is special in that there has been two copy modes (unique and phantom). If both should have their own key (Ctrl and Alt), then to follow the consistency rules, the Alt key would not be usable as drag key shortcut in the other editors.

So far in 2.30, Shift is snap override, Ctrl is copy, and Alt is lock x/y. It can actually make sense to hold all three keys down if you are dragging an event you want to copy further away on the same track without snapping.

If you think this new key shortcut behaviour is bad, then please tell me what you would prefer instead.