Reply To: Preview 2.23: Redesigned group panel

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Zynewave
Keymaster

@Conquistador wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

I had a quick look at some other host mixers: The Cubase mixer seems to use two lines for each effect; one for the name and a second line for assorted buttons, including a power button. The Logic Pro 9 mixer does not have bypass buttons, but uses option+click to toggle bypass. I don’t see any bypass buttons in the Reaper mixer strips either.

I would be very careful about looking elsewhere to see if something that was not a problem in Podium before 2.23, is mirrored elsewhere. Comparison has its merits but in this case Podium has a chance to offer easier access and functionality in this area (like it did pre 2.23) thats all.

Taking a step back in functionality IMO and effectively saying they have the same setup is a bit puzzling. I would have thought even a small opportunity to make Podium easier and more pleasurable to use would be snapped up.

. I wouldn’t call it a “step backward” just by having them hidden in the default setup 😉

Call it what you will… 😉

Step backward, a degree of added complication or simply a case of design / presentation over functionality…its a small part of the interface but one that is very important to access quickly and easily.

The reason I would like to have them hidden, is to provide more space for the effect name. A lot of plugins have long names which will be truncated in the narrow buttons on the mixer strips

FR alert…

That is easily solved by having mixer strips one can drag to the right and having the FX buttons resize accordingly. Otherwise we have the current situation where a bypass button is removed to make way for plugin text. A user should not have to trade one for the other. Mixer strips need to be wider by default or…dragging them should resize fx buttons which should as a result make more text visible. Solved.

A user will then be able to decide for themsleves how comfortable they are with a strips width versus the text they need to see on a button IMO.

I’m sorry, but this post does not make sense to me.

Saying that this is “Taking a step back in functionality” is overreacting. I’ve mentioned several times now that you just enable the “show bypass buttons” option, and then you have it the way you want.

I made the comparison with other host mixers, just to verify that hiding the bypass buttons by default would not be a catastrophic decision. If Logic Pro users can live without bypass buttons, then I feel confident that it is ok to have the bypass buttons hidden by default.

And the mixer strips can already be resized with the “minimum strip width” setting in the mixer region properties. As I’ve previously mentioned in this topic, I’m also going to add strip width zooming.