[Zynewave]

@thcilnnahoj wrote:

@Zynewave wrote:

I’ve implemented a new “slider with value popup” control type, which I’m considering making the default, as shown in the screenshot. Moving the mouse over for example a send slider will show “Send: -3.20 dB” in a popup above the control. Often you don’t need the full decimal value indicated all the time. I think it helps clean up the UI.

While I agree that you’re better off not seeing numbers (and thus maybe mixing by them) all the time, I don’t understand why it would be better to have them (re)moved in the mixer. Since the faders’ numerical values are represented there at all times, they might as well be right next to or on top of the faders themselves. I see no need for separate fields dedicated to just this. That being said, it seems 9 out of 10 sequencers have been doing it this way all along, so there must be something I’m missing.

It’s just the new default setting. You can still enable the “slider with value on knob” option in the mixer region properties. This will apply to all send/gain/pan sliders. My goal has been a cleaner default look, and I think removing the values from the knobs achieves that. The gain/pan value text display uses a larger font, and thus is easier to read. It also provides for a single-click access to the value input in the track properties dialog.

I’ve tried adding some space between the strips (again), and drawing a frame around the selected strip, similar to the key focus frame drawn around list boxes. Eventually I would like to do the same with the track lane headers. Any opinions on this new style?

I think we’ve gotten to know the frame as just that – an indicator of which list receives keyboard focus in Podium. The actually selected item within the list would still be highlighted with a fully colored box (you can tell I don’t know UI design terminology!). In this case however, the mixer strip is the item… A little confusing, maybe, but I do like how it looks, so please continue. 🙂

And that’s the reason why I so far have colored the entire header/strip with the select color. But quite often it just doesn’t look good, especially with the new button style headers. I also found it annoying that you can’t see the track header update in realtime when using the color picker, as the header would always be painted with the select color.

It would also probably be good if the change over to ‘selection framing’ on the track headers would appear in 2.23 already, for consistency’s sake. Also, I wonder if you’re thinking of applying this to items in the arrangement too, seeing as they don’t have any visible controls that would suffer from being dyed.

I plan to adjust the track lane headers before releasing 2.23. In fact I plan to experiment with changing the entire group bar hierarchy display in the tracks region, so that it matches the group header display used in the mixer. Try to imagine the mixer strips turned on the side. This means that the left edge of the track headers will no longer be offset horizontally according to their hierarchy position. This will ensure that e.g. all gain/pan sliders are aligned vertically, no matter what the hierarchy level the track is at. Any opinions on this?

Other comments on the latest screenshot:
– Personally, I still prefer those faders shaped like pills (elongated beans? :D), with or without value display. The round ones seem so small, especially since the BSMREX buttons just got bigger.

The slider can still be grabbed by clicking inside the entire slider frame, so it has not become harder to adjust the value. Having a smaller knob also means that the knob can travel a longer distance in the slider groove, resulting in greater precision.